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#1 Michael

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 02:41 PM

Did you notice that on Vigor you can hagarjump to the top of the right side wall, right after the upper stairways? The leading team's flag carrier can get there and hide til the match is over. This happened today and it was very frustrating. Maybe with some practice I can learn to get there, but it's just not fun. It's not what CTF is all about. Please fix that!Posted Image

#2 Chef Linguini

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 02:46 PM

I don't think there's any way they can fix that unless they completely remake the maps. The only thing I can say is if it's in pubs don't let it get to you and use jetpacks/evil summon lol. If it's in a custom I would count that as cheating and an automatic forfeit.
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#3 P1G V3n0m

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 02:56 PM

Did you notice that on Vigor you can hagarjump to the top of the right side wall, right after the upper stairways? The leading team's flag carrier can get there and hide til the match is over. This happened today and it was very frustrating. Maybe with some practice I can learn to get there, but it's just not fun. It's not what CTF is all about. Please fix that!Posted Image

So I'm guessing that you didn't try to hagar jump up there, and that you didn't get the evil summon mutator, or any of the flag damage mutators?

Nexuiz might be a twitch shooter, but it's also a thinking man's game when it comes to using mutators to your advantage.

#4 Sir Hulk Z

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 02:57 PM

In PUGS, Scrims, and Matches we can make the out of bounds areas off limits to prevent this stuff from happening. In pubs though you kind of have to deal with it. Much like teams camping the outerspace area on Zealot in H2.
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#5 Chef Linguini

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 03:04 PM

In PUGS, Scrims, and Matches we can make the out of bounds areas off limits to prevent this stuff from happening. In pubs though you kind of have to deal with it. Much like teams camping the outerspace area on Zealot in H2.


lol "zealot in H2"????

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#6 Sir Hulk Z

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 03:06 PM

IDK what shitty Halo they are on now. Whatever the shitty one they are playing!!!!

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#7 Chef Linguini

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 03:07 PM

Halo: Reach bro. But yes I agree, they are shitty
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 05:07 PM

Lol there is a mutator at the top of vigor in the middle...

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#9 Michael

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 01:01 AM

So I'm guessing that you didn't try to hagar jump up there, and that you didn't get the evil summon mutator, or any of the flag damage mutators?

Nexuiz might be a twitch shooter, but it's also a thinking man's game when it comes to using mutators to your advantage.


I tried to hagarjump there, but I fell into te void everytime. BTW hagarclimb would be the better expression, like plasmaclimb in Q3. But even if I make it to the top, what could I do against the whole team waiting for me? If I use evil summon there's a chance of 33% to get the flag carrier. If I kill him with flag damage, another one will pick up the flag. And it will also take some time to get the right mutators.

I think the map is flawed.

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 11:04 AM

I don't know man, if it seems like it's becoming a problem and illfonic doesn't want to change anything(though I'm not sure how they could fix this), then maybe consider building up a dynamic mutator that you think would help most.

For instance, if the whole team is up there, put some pips into the super hagar pip. Then when you get it, climb the wall and activate it right before you get to the top, then slaughter their whole team.

Also, what to you mean there's a 33% chance to get the flag carrier with evil summon? I thought it summoned everyone.

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 11:07 AM

They purposely put that in. There's a mutator there if you haven't noticed.

#12 Nexwhiz

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 01:54 PM

They purposely put that in. There's a mutator there if you haven't noticed.


Yeah I jumped up there several days ago and was like I wonder if this is a glitch and I'm not supposed to be up here, then I saw the dynamic mutator spawn and figured that was a sign that we're supposed to be able to get up there.

#13 Michael

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 12:43 AM

Lol. No I haven't noticed, I wasn't able to get there Posted Image OK then I'm just not good enough to play Vigor...

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 02:09 AM

OK yesterday I got there with low gravity and a rocket jump. Nice look from above. Perfect to spam some rockets on the flag. But seriously, how are you supposed to get there? Did the level designers really want us to hagar climb? Or wait for jetpack/ low grav to go there? Or do I just miss a way to get there?

#15 P1G V3n0m

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 06:57 AM

OK yesterday I got there with low gravity and a rocket jump. Nice look from above. Perfect to spam some rockets on the flag. But seriously, how are you supposed to get there? Did the level designers really want us to hagar climb? Or wait for jetpack/ low grav to go there? Or do I just miss a way to get there?

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 07:48 AM

am gonna have to get up there myself cuz i have no idea wtf you guys are talking about.

But like venom said you use Evil Summon and you should be able to get all 3 of them.
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 02:10 PM

You all sound like your talking about heaven or something, just so you know my friends tell me there's a stairway you can take...

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 03:27 PM

You make a good point, and it wouldn't be very difficult to fix to be honest. If I know where you're talking about, then they could simply put an 'invisible barrier' to prevent people from scaling the wall.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 07:28 AM

we initially put things like secret areas for jetpack play, rocket jumping wasn't originally in so this was bound to come up... the good news is theres lots of counters for it and camping generally doesn't pay in Nexuiz.

As this admin said, they purposely put secret areas with secret mutators spawns and things like that for a different area to play in when you got the jetpacks or can rocketjump or hagarclimb there. It is meant to be like this so I guess we'll just have to learn how to play with those things. I don't think it's a big problem though. :D
He answered theses sentences on a topic about how to go on top of overlook. As you surely notice, you can also get pretty high on overlook. Anyway, I'm just wondering what are the other secret places in other maps :P. I just think it's a cool feature unless it becomes a really camping whore spot.
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 01:03 PM

You all sound like your talking about heaven or something, just so you know my friends tell me there's a stairway you can take...


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