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#1 AngelFred24

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 10:42 AM

Yeah I know it may sound stupid or noobie, but I just think all the whining about the auto-aim is bad. It sure gives you a lot of advantages but it also kind of slow your gameplay because sometimes your crosshair follows a guy while your pogojumping and you lose all your momentum.

Also, it's more difficult to aim at the side of people with like the RL, hagar, electro or the mortar because it aims on them and you often miss because of that. It is sure a handicap when you use the Nex, shotgun or the clancutter, but is it that bad?

I think it's for two different players, the one that'll run everywhere while shooting with a mortar or RL can get the auto aim off and the other one, who will play more precise/less movement, could put the AA on.

I already know a couple of arguments against mine but I just don't really understand all the whining about it. Also, it's not cool to say all those things against it when I play with it lol. Maybe I took personnal when I shouldn't have but, let's go, let'S debate about it!!! ^^

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#2 Chef Linguini

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 11:04 AM

Personally, I hate when I play with AA. I turned it back on the other day after playing without and I actually sucked with it on. Sure, I could get a few more Nex shots but every other weapon suffered.

The game plays much smoother without AA. I don't think we need it.


BTW, even with AA off there's still a little bit. Test for yourself. Stand still with a player walking by. Your reticle will move.


I also hate when trials out-shotgunned me with their n00by AA. But I've gotten pretty good with the shotgun now so it's all good :)


It's all personal preference. I would use AA if I loved the Nex more, but IMO it limits you too much.
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#3 dm6

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 11:16 AM

Beside  that Its only for dirty Console peasants who are not allowed to use Mouse and Keyboard(me included), its inconsistend depending on the connection, not only in nexuiz in any online Shooter, and that its not doing what it should do, aiming at targets or aiming at the right target.

#4 Esteem

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 12:14 PM

Well said, but a handicap is a bad thing lol.

#5 AngelFred24

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 01:46 PM

Thanks for answering me guys. I'll try to turn off the AA to give it a shot but the other time I just raged because I turned it off. Also, I agree with you Chef that the game is smoother without it and it is also way easier to do pogo jumping. Anyway, I'll give it a try on a couple of games and I'll juge ^^.
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#6 .RB.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 11:17 AM

AA are basically ingame hacks. Either learn to play the game or go play some easy casualised game. Perhaps play the original Nexuiz then come back to this one.

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#7 AngelFred24

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 06:01 PM

Arby, just so you know, we are in the xBox general discussion, that's why I created this topic a little after the game came out on xBox because there was a big on debate about it. The AA isn't hack on xBox it's included and gives both advantages and disadvantages I think. That's all.
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#8 .RB.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 08:35 PM

Arby, just so you know, we are in the xBox general discussion, that's why I created this topic a little after the game came out on xBox because there was a big on debate about it. The AA isn't hack on xBox it's included and gives both advantages and disadvantages I think. That's all.


What disadvatages does it give aside from the player on the other end of your Nex getting killed cause the user needs AA. AA is a crutch, essetually a legal hack that allows poorly aiming players lock on.

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#9 SimeonOfDeath

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 11:21 AM

I actually agree with Arby here. I hate that there is AA, it nullifies all the hard work I put in to get good to a degree. People should have to earn their aiming and battle skills by putting in the hard time and practice necessary to get good. When you simply hand them the ability to lock onto and take down a superior player not by a lucky shot or a rare skillful moment but by selecting an option in the menus it takes away the reward earned by those of us who put in the time and effort.

I understand that you want to retain players and some might get frustrated and leave if they can't get many kills, but honestly if you are going to leave just because you aren't good at first maybe you should take up something other than competitive viedo gaming. Everyone needs to earn their badges of honor and sometimes that means taking an ass whipping for a couple of weeks while you learn the ropes of a new game. I equate AA enabling to that stupid thing where some kid's sports leagues play matches but no scores are kept and "everybody wins! Isn't that shiny and fun and unrealistic as hell and aren't we NOT preparing them for the real world? Isn't it WON-derful?"

I would LOVE it if games were separated...those with AA enabled can play each other all they want and those without it enabled can play each other and not worry that some noob is gonna take them out when they really don't have the skill to earn that kill.

In ANY case, AA should ONLY exist in non-leaderboard player matches. It should NEVER be included in ranked games. Ranked play is for those trying to climb leaderboards, earn achievements, whatever, but it is for competition, not for "funsy hand-holding time". Putting AA in ranked matches gives an unfair competitive advantage to those who haven't earned it like they SHOULD in ranked play. Not good.

#10 Teapot

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 12:24 PM

It's absolutely a crutch, but legal hacks? Come on now...

Sounds like you guys are pretty upset about AA. Realistically, for all you hardcore players having no AA would be the ideal competitive situation. Howver, this is a(n already) dead game, with a community that is too small to divide up with matchmaking settings.

It's stupid to say that those players use it because they haven't earned good aim yet.. what does that even mean? So you have good enough aim where you don't need AA because you put time and effort into your aim? Shouldn't that be rewarding enough whether you kill someone with aa on or aa off?

I think although a truly skilled and competitive based player would dislike AA, they would get enough satisfaction off their own aim and skill to not give a shit about how others play. If you're good you don't need it.

#11 SimeonOfDeath

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 10:39 AM

I agree that it would be unwise to divide up an alerady shrinking community, perhaps it would be better to NOT include an option for AA in ranked games but allow it in player matches.

You are missing my point when it comes to earning good aim. I'm not saying that people use AA because they haven't earned good aim. I'm saying that people can beat a legitimately good player because they can use AA instead of beating players with good old fashioned hard work and effort put in over time to earn your stripes and become good themselves. So in essence they are not using it BECAUSE they haven't earned good aim, they are using it INSTEAD of earning their skills.

In a ranked situation you can bet your butt that I care about how others play. Ranked matches should have a base even playing field, period. I don't care how good I eventually get, I do not want to be taken out by someone using a crutch. I don't mind at all being taken out by a good player or an average to poor one having a good or lucky day, that's gaming and it's fine with me. So long as the playing field is level and nobody has an unfair competitive advantage.

#12 rottingcore

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 02:39 AM

AA doesn't make sense (in my opinion) in fast paced games like nexuiz. This is because in most cases (like the electro, rocket launcher, or any other projectile gun) you want to aim IN FRONT of a player, not where he is. It's hard to hit the ground three feet in front of a player (where that player is about to land) if you're aiming at the player itself.

#13 AngelFred24

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 05:20 PM

I aggre rottingcore, the more I get to play on xBox (I didn't play a lot recently though), the more I seem to find that the advantages of the AA are outnumbered by its disadvantages.
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