Many of you have not joined us on IRC http://www.gamesurge.net/chat/ in #nexuiz or irc.gamesurge.net @ #nexuiz
I have gone through the logs and will provide you with all the questions/answers that were given to date. Don't get spoiled, I may not do this all the time. Just get on into IRC and see what you're missing! I will apologize now for any errors that I may have made below and for some time stamps still being in long discussions =)
Creature: can you tell me if its dx11?
Kedhrin: the PC version will feature full CryENGINE 3 Direct X 11 Features
Creature: i just thought since movement speed was increased by 15% would make sense for projectiles to be adjusted somewhat like rockets?
Kedhrin: Creature, not yet, but we're looking at all of that right now
Creature: will it have a small perorder sale too? they get people to look at the specials tab and may help increase sales somewhat on steam
Creature: not that i dont mind paying a full ten dollars hell i would easily pay 15 possibly more for this
Kedhrin: Creature, i'm not sure what THQ has planned for that yet but i imagine something will reveal itself soon
Cr4zy: Kedhrin I hope you guys have a ton of visual/system settings planned for the PC version?
Kedhrin: Cr4zy, we have a good amount but it's still simplified
Cr4zy: Possibility of config file editing?
Kedhrin: Cr4zy, CryENGINE 3 is a beast with an insane amount of visual cvars, we've dumbed them down into multiple categories
Cr4zy: Yeah I know it's got a ton
Kedhrin: Cr4zy, probably not, theres a lot of things we have to maintain control over for Dynamic Mutators and other things
Cr4zy: Just hoping it has more then the 'standard' PC game these days
Kedhrin: Cr4zy, oh its way more than standard pc games these days that are just console ports
Creature: raw input for mouse?
Cr4zy: ^that too
Kedhrin: Creature, whatever default cryengine 3 uses for mouse input is what we use, we don't know anything else beyond that
Cr4zy: Guess you have a sens slider/value in-game?
Sam1: kedhrin: But will the game itself have an option for 7.1?
kedhrin: Sam1, if the engine supports it i guess, i don't know, we haven't looked into it, that's a feature from crytek not us
SilentKO: its just the way it is right now its kinda mess up. just to give you an example on Strengh when you drop where the mutator is to grab the Nex you take damage and i and many ppl have die when they are in the middle of a fight and drop down there
SilentKO: and not just that map i mean if you drop a few feet and ur low health you will die easily
SilentKO: i understand the reason behind it but even when you use jumpads you take damage
kedhrin: theres something dramatically wrong with damage we discovered yesterday
kedhrin: CryENGINE 3 feature we didnt know about
kedhrin: so its probably related to that
kedhrin: because fall damage doesn't seem to be consistent
SilentKO: i see
kedhrin: so it should be more consistent in the next patch
kedhrin: which was what was causing headshots to be fubar too
Sam1: Fall damage should be really low
kedhrin: yeah we initally had no fall damage at all but only added it for the intended functionality of a small amount of visual feedback or taking damage from a severe fall (like losing jetpacks)
SilentKO: thats how mess up fall damage is right now
SilentKO: BTW you dont take fall damage when losing jetpacks if you didnt know
kedhrin: lol yeah jump pad fall damage is the worse
kedhrin: thats actually not fall damage
kedhrin: thats velocity damage
kedhrin: (being thrown into a wall)
SilentKO: i get it
SilentKO: but thats just not right. i mean i dont see it right
SilentKO: that ill die to something like that
kedhrin: yeah thats not supposed tob e happening
SilentKO: BTW kedhrin when would you guysbe dropping another patch?
kedhrin: well the first patch should be dropping any day now, just still waiting for microsoft
kedhrin: after that i hope to have a massive content push in the DLC patch, which allows us to update menus etc
HangingJohnny: Kedhrin, are new gametypes a possibility for the near future?
kedhrin: a possibility, yes, but we can't confirm anything right now
SilentKO: kedhrin i notice you guys have the leaderboard option on the Nexuiz website, any chance of that getting online?
kedhrin: hopefully soon
kedhrin: still working on it
SilentKO: i think spectator mode and the option to make ur own servers are far more important than that
kedhrin: we have no news on spectator mode or dedicated servers for 360 but dedicated servers will be available on PC
SilentKO: hehe i know they will be available for pc. we just dont get why it cant be duable for the 360.
kedhrin: Valve has the greatest modo when it comes to making PC games for Steam
kedhrin: "make hats!"
kedhrin: 360 on the other hand, well, the patch has been done for over a week now.
Sam1: kedhrin: Hats are only in one of Valve's games
kedhrin: Sam1, i know
SilentKO: kedhrin it will def help alot if we could make our own server on the 360
SilentKO: it will solve lots of problems
kedhrin: SilentKO, who knows, maybe once we get it working on PC it will be easy to migrate over to 360, but we just don't know yet as we're still investigating it
SilentKO: i understand hopefully everything goes well and like you said can be done on the 360 too
Chef_Linguini: Kedhrin, Spectator mode will be released for the x360 though right? Because with spectator mode I beleive there's some kind of workaround that basically gives you dedis
SilentKO: kedhrin how is the pc verson coming alone?
Sam1: kedhrin: Will there be a spectator slot for the shoutcaster?
kedhrin: Chef_Linguini, Spectator opens the door for a lot of LAG possibilities, but it's not hte 'spectator' mode itself thats the problem, its the menus
kedhrin: Spectator pretty much already works, we just need a way for the menus to hook up to it
kedhrin: which requires a programmers time, and they're full up right now
Sam1: kedhrin: I hope you add lots of options for lowering graphics, I want to run Nexuiz with the lowest possible graphical settings.
kedhrin: Sam1, didn't we talk about this the other day?
Sam1: kedhrin: Maybe, I don't have a very good memory
Sam1: kedhrin: Shoutcaster support?
Sam1: I do like to listen to a good caster when watching tournaments
kedhrin: Sam1, shoutcaster would pretty much be the same as spectator
Chef_Linguini: Kedhrin, thanks for the reply. If we can give spectator Host then that should fix a lot of the big issues that many have with this game.
kedhrin: but we don't have any plans to support streaming atm
kedhrin: streaming can be done easily on someonds local machine anyways
kedhrin: Chef_Linguini, most of the issues that are in the game are already fixed
Chef_Linguini: Kedhrin: I CAN"T WAIT DARNIT
kedhrin: just waiting for someone to release the patch
Chef_Linguini: yup yup
SilentKO: lol dam mocosoft
Chef_Linguini: Hey now!
Sam1: No need to wait ages for PC patches
Chef_Linguini: it's spelled damn* lol
Sam1: And spelt Microsoft*
kedhrin: Sam1, we are doing a PC Beta, we will be releasing details soon.
Sam1: kedhrin: Closed or open?
Chef_Linguini: Sam1: one of the many reasons I am considering taking the PC plunge
Sam1: kedhrin: If closed, please may I have a key? xx
Chef_Linguini: lol how many times are you going to ask dude
Sam1: Chef_Linguini: Until I get an answer
kedhrin: Sam1, i already gave you an answer
Sam1: kedhrin: No you didn't, you're avoiding telling me whether I may have a key.
kedhrin: Sam1, i said we'll be releasing details soon, so i'm not going to say yes or no right now
Sam1: kedhrin: Okay, I will be refreshing your website every 2 hours 'til I see info about the beta
Chef_Linguini: Kedhrin, the alt fire on the ravager is quite wonky as you probably know by now. Are there any plans to adjust this or return it to the way it was? I think the alt fire on the shotgun could be a great precision alternative, plus its something everyone has. I suggest bumping the damage to 45
kedhrin: Sam1, I asked THQ if i can talk about the beta, but still haven't heard back yet, so i gotta wait for the go ahead
Sam1: kedhrin: Are you bound under an NDA?
kedhrin: Sam1, no, i just don't want to step on marketing's toes
Sam1: kedhrin: I'd love to see some PC gameplay, the Xbox videos all look so slow paced
kedhrin: Chef_Linguini, seeing as fixing it to be the hitscan alternative will have to wait til our next big patch, we'll probably have to figure something out now. I'll look at the shotgun.
Chef_Linguini: awesome thanks! the clancutter is great now btw
kedhrin: Sam1, we should have something up soon, Echon is hard at work on the Steam integration right now, so once he's done with that i'll probably make something
Sam1: Chef_Linguini: Want to play Nexuiz with me when it's released?
fnLeX: Hey ked, I was wondering is there some kind of limit on how many pogos I can do b4 losing my top speed
SilentKO: yea you guys probably be better of just designing the alt fire for the ravanger again or something if thats something ur looking to do. i know you just try to make another hitscan weapon but its really not working properly
fnLeX: Cause right now it feels like 2-3 jumps
Chef_Linguini: Sam1, I don't have a PC yet, saving up for one. But yeah man, for sure
Chef_Linguini: a good enough PC rather
kedhrin: fnLeX, there is a top speed, and i think if you do 4 or 5 you hit that top speed but you don't lose speed until you move back on the air control or start looking in other directions
kedhrin: SilentKO, yeah i put it into the work queue to make sure the adjustments are made to make it work properly
Chef_Linguini: Kedhrin: any plans for the electro alt fire? or the hagar? both need a damage boost IMO. Not a huge deal though, I've kinda stuck myself to mortar unless I'm host then I pick up rockets
kedhrin: Chef_Linguini, i want to increase the sticky range on the electro alt fire, but making it as a hitscan weapon or anything like that would just make it too uber as a weapon. the hagar needs a damage boost???? thats insane. lol but i'll look at it.
SilentKO: kedhrin the electro alt fire takes like 3 secs to blow up and its kinda hard to actually combo somebody with it
SilentKO: any way you can make like shoot 3 rounds of alt fire or i dont know something else
Chef_Linguini: The hagar is really hard to use for me... Maybe I'm just bad. I only want it bumped from 20 to 25 damage
kedhrin: SilentKO, once i increase the sticky it should be a lot better, i had to decrease it because it was so OP with it high
Chef_Linguini: oh ok
Chef_Linguini: Would it be possible to make the crylink alt fire MORE accurate in the next patch? I think that would be better. I mean it's already pretty inaccurate.
fnLeX: Ok ked, that makes sense I think ive figured out a way to just gain speed without actually pogo'ing far
fnLeX: Its weird to explain but I don't think its a glitch
kedhrin: yeah if you go up ramps you can accelerate really fast
SilentKO: the alt fire for the crylink its just weird why make it a wider spread? instead of a smaller one or something a lil diff
kedhrin: which is part of the strategy
kedhrin: Youtube watch?v=r2ozuCXpVJY
Chef_Linguini: wtf ked
fnLeX: Yup ramps help a ton
Chef_Linguini: i was expecting a crylink vide lol
kedhrin: SilentKO, i dunno that was how it was in Classic Nexuiz, ive used it a few times when i'm trying to clear a room
SilentKO: lol he is def messing with ut, justin really kedhrin lol
SilentKO: yea but its awful kedhrin. it should def not be a wider spread
Chef_Linguini: u smile, I smile
SilentKO: it just makes no sense
Chef_Linguini: your lips are my biggest weakness
SilentKO: Chef_Linguini dont go darkside on me lol
Chef_Linguini: ok ill stop. BUT yes ked, alt fire crylink is HUUUGE.
SilentKO: you guys could take a look at the crylink in Xonotic that thing is wicked
kedhrin: no thanks
Fula: is there anyone else who finds it too hard/impossible to max-height-rocket-jump off-host? @kedhrin: anyway you can increase that time-span so ppl can easily use it on not-so-good connections?
kedhrin: i stay away from xonotic
Chef_Linguini: Yeah off host rocket jumping is pretty bad IMO
kedhrin: Fula, a lot of that is fixed in the patch about to drop, so we'll look at things then
SilentKO: i get it but seriously the crylink alt fire its not right and it makes no sense
Chef_Linguini: It's a good way to tell how good your connection is actually lol. (rocket jumping)
kedhrin: i may have a solution
SilentKO: ok cool
Fula: the thing is on some hosts its literliter
Fula: literally impossible
SilentKO: well he said it should be better once the patch hits, lets just see what happens
SilentKO: i personally cant wait to see what the patch does
kedhrin: the biggest thing the patch does is open 4v4 play again
kedhrin: so you guys will finally be able to play nexuiz like it was meant to be played
kedhrin: Chef_Linguini, i did the whale sounds with my mouth
kedhrin: Chef_Linguini, my old dog Plato used to cry like that all the time in the backyard when i was like 11, my brother and i used to emulate his sound to make fun of him
Chef_Linguini: Kedhrin, btw I've been getting some kills with the electro alt fire. I guess I was just bad before lol. The homing ability still needs to be increased a bit but the combo you get is really cool.
Sam: Electro=lightning gun?
kedhrin: i love sticking them and watching them run around a corner and dying haha
Chef_Linguini: Kedhrin, did you go to college? what did you major in?
kedhrin: Chef_Linguini, i'm a high school dropout. i've just been working with games since i was 10
thecman19: i don't see a question about 3D
thecman19: like Nvidia 3D Vision
Kedhrin: thecman19, we havent announced anything about stereo support, but we should hopefully have some more info soon!hecman19: i am talking about 3d
thecman19: not sound
Kedhrin: thecman19, so am i
thecman19: i am getting an Asus G74 3d gaming laptop
thecman19: its going to be full of modifications
thecman19: ordered mine from Xotic Pc
Kedhrin: i generally stick with alienware, theyve been doing some cool stuff lately
thecman19: i don't trust Dell
thecman19: i like Asus
Kedhrin: theyre still quality laptops
Kedhrin: i got a couple of the newer asus models
Kedhrin: one of their first gaming models too
Sam: Kedhrin: Chef_Linguini and I are going to play Nexuiz together when it's released, will you be playing too? xx
Kedhrin: Sam, of course, i'll even be playing on the xbox version more when the patch drops, which should be here really soon... got word its passed cert, just needs to propogate
Sam: Kedhrin: OMG I JUST READ PC BETA EARLY APRIL!!!!!!
Kedhrin: Sam, there will be a sign up page, i cant guarantee any keys but i don't think we're being really strict on it or anything
Sam: Kedhrin: Will Nexuiz run on Laptop Intel graphics?
Kedhrin: Sam, i posted the min specs on FB
Kedhrin: so anything outside of that i don't know
Kedhrin: but we'll be investigating stuff
Sam: Kedhrin: Is the 17th of April still the release date? I hope not, the beta would be so short, I don't want to see a buggy release.
Kedhrin: Sam, we'll probably do a week long beta, and that 17th date isnt an official release date. the main purpose of the beta will be to address crashes and issues across different types of setups
Sam: Chef_Linguini: Are you a Quake Live pro or something? If not, why do you think you have the credibility to suggest game balance tweaks?
(7:29:35 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: A week? That's hardly any time at all!
(7:29:51 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, enough time for us
(7:29:58 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: It had better be
(7:30:04 PM) Kedhrin: lol
(7:30:12 PM) Sam: I've been waiting too long for a new Arena FPS, don't fuck this up for me.
(7:30:18 PM) Chef_Linguini: I have no credibility but my opinion and the fact that o've played it a bunch.
(7:30:50 PM) Chef_Linguini: They're called suggestions. RIght now the rockets mortar and nex reign supreme. Not ideal IMO
(7:31:21 PM) Sam: The LG is underpowered? That's not good
(7:31:30 PM) Kedhrin: everyone is intitled to their input and suggestions, i listen to all, and don't care if someone is a Pro at X or whatever. Nexuiz isn't Quake Live or Unreal Tournament, so i listen to current Nexuiz players the most
(7:31:34 PM) Sam: WTF is a mortar?
(7:32:00 PM) Sam: Current Nexuiz players are all Xbox scrubs
(7:33:13 PM) Chef_Linguini: thanks kedhrin. Anyway what do you think about " I think a ROF a fire increase on the electro alt would be beneficial if we don't get that homing ability buffed soon. ALSO, shotgun alt fire should be 45. AND ravager alt fire still isn't working well. It's actually worse. Just my continued 2 cents on the game Ked, take it as you will! "
(7:33:51 PM) Kedhrin: Chef_Linguini, yeah i'm probably going to revert my changes on the ravager because it's too bugy, but i have the team working on the solutions
(7:34:14 PM) Chef_Linguini: Sam: The mortar is like it sounds. It's a 2 hit kill and the alt fire acts like a frag grenade sorta
(7:34:18 PM) Kedhrin: Chef_Linguini, i'm turning the ravager alt fire into a proper hitscan weapon, and the crylink alt fire is turning into a beam weapon (like the super clancutter, just not as powerful)
(7:34:29 PM) Chef_Linguini: AWESOME!
(7:34:44 PM) Chef_Linguini: Omg that's going to be great
(7:35:10 PM) Chef_Linguini: but this will be the dlc patch right? or are you going to be able to do this "server side"
(7:35:47 PM) Kedhrin: Chef_Linguini, there are numerous issues with damage which we just found but it won't be fixed until the DLC patch because it requires a lot of content changes. we discovered CryENGINE 3 takes physics into consideration when dealing damage, so 100 damage isn't just "100 Damage", it's how much 100 damage does to surface type X, which made it all sorts of wonky.
(7:35:57 PM) Kedhrin: Chef_Linguini, those will be in the DLC patch
(7:36:26 PM) Kedhrin: Chef_Linguini, we're moving as much as we can to server side stuff, but unfortunately it requires big patches, DLC patch is required if we want to push heavy content like new menus, etc.
(7:36:41 PM) Kedhrin: Chef_Linguini, unlike PC where we can put in a feature and let players get the update same day :/
(7:37:09 PM) Sam: Chef_Linguini: Mortar sounds like RL
(7:37:25 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, mortar is like the grenade launcher in Q3
(7:37:30 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: OMG don't tell me there's going to be paid DLC...
(7:37:35 PM) Chef_Linguini: DLC patch is being worked on right now and should be sent to microsoft by mid april right? (guessing here) If so DLC patch should be available come mid may? (safe estimate)
(7:37:44 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: Ahhhh thought so
(7:38:01 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: But mortars aren't grenades...
(7:38:27 PM) Sam: Paid DLC would be the lamest thing ever
(7:38:38 PM) Chef_Linguini: Kedhrin: The damage variablity makes a lot of since now for how I still get these incredible 1 hit kills sometimes.
(7:38:51 PM) Kedhrin: Chef_Linguini, i can't comment on dates with it, but i can tell you a lot of stuff has been implemented, like turning off weapons/powerups/etc., southpaw, all sorts of stuff the community is asking for. Mutator Options is almost done as well.
(7:39:28 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: Will there be priced DLC on PC?
(7:39:31 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, there is Paid DLC as we have to make money back on the budgets we spend for the content people gotta eat!
(7:39:43 PM) Chef_Linguini: Sam: I will gladly pay for DLC from Illfonic. If these patches come soon and we get what was promised, this game is worth much more than other $60 AAA titles
(7:40:22 PM) Sam: The reason I hate DLC is because without buying it, you do not have a full game
(7:40:36 PM) Chef_Linguini: Then buy it lol. This game is cheap
(7:40:38 PM) Sam: And paying for the game+the DLC=more than the price of a full game
(7:40:52 PM) Chef_Linguini: No, it's still less (at least for xbox)
(7:41:07 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, thats not how it works and that isn't the strategy with DLC either
(7:41:10 PM) Sam: Chef_Linguini: Just look at Call of Duty, it costs like £100 for the full game with all the maps
(7:41:13 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, we have to pay to make the content
(7:41:32 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: What's going to be in the DLC that you could possibly charge for?
(7:41:40 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: Can't be new maps, because there is a mapmaker
(7:41:52 PM) Chef_Linguini: DLC is pretty much the new strategy for devs these days. just get over it
(7:42:00 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, do you think expansion packs are bad?
(7:42:09 PM) Sam: Chef_Linguini: Wrong, the developers I buy games from have NEVER sold DLC
(7:42:15 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: No, expansion packs are good
(7:42:17 PM) Chef_Linguini: ok...
(7:42:25 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, expansion packs and DLC are the exact same thing
(7:42:32 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, DLC is just in bite size form
(7:42:37 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: An expansion pack adds a lot of content, DLC doesn't
(7:43:01 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, DLC, when added up, adds up to the same amount you'd pay for an expansion pack
(7:43:01 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: I don't understand how you can sell DLC with a game like Nexuiz, what could you possibly include in it?
(7:43:16 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, maps, mutators, game modes and more
(7:43:21 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: An expansion pack would add more content than all the DLC
(7:43:29 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, theyre the exact same thing
(7:43:45 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: Would maps really sell when the community can just make their own?
(7:44:09 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: I was hoping you'd say skins...
(7:44:11 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, these are CryENGINE 3, professionaly made maps. making maps in CryENGINE 3 is extremely difficult
(7:44:13 PM) Chef_Linguini: Anyway I'd rather not argue over this lol. Kedhrin, if you'd be so kind, with the DLC patch will I be able to turn third eye, team locator, and instagib on etc? Are strength powerups going to be static? Will we see new mutators?
(7:44:20 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: LOL really?
(7:44:45 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: That comment sounds a lot like when EA told us we wouldn't get our modtools for BF3
(7:45:04 PM) Sam: "Frostbyte is too complicated for you idiots *trollface*"
(7:45:05 PM) Kedhrin: Chef_Linguini, I'm trying to get certain powerups on a static timer now, the mutator options you should be able to, yes. There won't be new mutators with this DLC patch though
(7:45:22 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, we're still giving it to the players and i'm going to be making a ton of tutorials even
(7:45:39 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, i hope the community makes super pro-grade maps, i do, but thats not how that works
(7:45:52 PM) Chef_Linguini: Great! This game is really cool with third eye on. You guys did a really great job with that one in particular I think.
(7:45:53 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: You should include skins, you can sell them without pissing anyone off
(7:45:57 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, we're a business, we have bills, we have personal lives we have to take care of
(7:46:23 PM) Sam: Chef_Linguini: You mean third-person view?
(7:46:34 PM) Chef_Linguini: yeah. it's called third eye though
(7:46:41 PM) Sam: Chef_Linguini: I HATE that, it feels horrible playing a FPS in third person
(7:46:49 PM) Kedhrin: Chef_Linguini, heh yeah that was actually made by Crytek, one of their programmers did it for fun and never thought anything of it, so we asked if we could take it lol
(7:47:03 PM) Chef_Linguini: it feels pretty good actually Sam
(7:47:07 PM) Chef_Linguini: Oh cool
(7:47:12 PM) Sam: Chef_Linguini: Maybe on Xbawx
(7:47:20 PM) Chef_Linguini: Ok Sam
(7:47:39 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: Why are there only 2 player skins in Nexuiz? Why not add more?
(7:47:42 PM) Chef_Linguini: I don't mean for competition, I mean for fun. It's a nice fun change
(7:47:52 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, there are 3 per faction
(7:47:54 PM) Sam: Chef_Linguini: Except it's disorientating and horrible
(7:48:05 PM) Chef_Linguini: Sam: Opinion
(7:48:12 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: Oh right, I thought I could only see 2.
(7:49:15 PM) Chef_Linguini: Kedhrin: Will the upcoming patch fix stats not being saved when there's a host migration? I find this very agrevating
(7:49:31 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: Selling maps as DLC really sucks because it will divide the playerbase, and I have a feeling the playerbase for Nexuiz is going to be quite small already
(7:49:37 PM) Kedhrin: Chef_Linguini, I believe so, yes, we made sure to track that down big time
(7:49:55 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, i'm aware of that, but i didn't say what kind of maps, this is a very particular case i hope i can talk about soon
(7:50:19 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: I love how the guys at Tripwire have done it, there are hundreds of custom maps by the community, and they only sell skins, which means people can still play together.
(7:50:46 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: Maps are maps, are they not?
(7:50:58 PM) Chef_Linguini: Also I think a point reward system for games played would be great. It wouldn't penalize quitters but it would definitely encourage ppl not to quit. Something like 10,000 for 5every games, 25,000 for every 25 games, and 100,000 for every 50 games
(7:51:13 PM) Sam: Chef_Linguini: What would be the point?
(7:51:20 PM) Kedhrin: Chef_Linguini, you get that through medals i think
(7:51:25 PM) Sam: No pun intended LOL
(7:52:06 PM) Sam: Chef_Linguini: The best way to encourage people not to quit is to add them to a leaver poll if they do
(7:52:12 PM) Chef_Linguini: The points buy PIPS. Pips give you whales. whales = greatest thing evar lol. but nah it's not a big deal but it would encourage many i guarentee it.
(7:52:14 PM) Sam: Leaver polls gain lower priority matchmaking
(7:52:27 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: Will you be adding quitters to leaver polls?
(7:52:51 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, we are going to be a penalty in matchmaking for rage quitters
(7:52:59 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: If you don't know what I mean, I'm referring to how Valve is handling quitters in Dota 2
(7:53:00 PM) Chef_Linguini: Kedhrin: Medals don't effect gameplay at all. Points do just a little bit
(7:53:03 PM) Kedhrin: to try to pair them up with each other vs. with respectful players
(7:53:07 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: What's the penalty?
(7:53:19 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: So a leaver poll?
(7:53:27 PM) Kedhrin: i don't know what you mean by leaver poll
(7:53:32 PM) Kedhrin: but we are doing something
(7:53:41 PM) Kedhrin: Chef_Linguini, you get points from emdals
(7:53:43 PM) Kedhrin: medals*
(7:53:48 PM) Chef_Linguini: oh...
(7:53:53 PM) Chef_Linguini: lol Cool then!
(7:53:56 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: Basically, all ragequitters get added to a poll of players who get lower priority matchmaking, and only play with other quitters.
(7:54:07 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: It's how Valve is managing the problem in Dota 2
(7:54:08 PM) Kedhrin: https://docs.google....ItOGV2X3c#gid=0
(7:54:12 PM) Kedhrin: look at medal Points
(7:54:14 PM) Sam: Although it SUCKS when your internet goes down
(7:54:26 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: Are those Xbox achievements or something?
(7:54:40 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, ours does that, yes, but i can't say exactly what we're doing. we need to avoid exploiters
(7:54:53 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, no, those are points you earn in game, post match and the points you earn from medals
(7:55:05 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: Pardon the pun, but what's the point in points?
(7:55:18 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, Chef_Linguini described it above
(7:55:18 PM) Sam: What are they for?
(7:55:37 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: No he didn't
(7:55:44 PM) Sam: What are points used for?
(7:56:08 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, you spend them on adjusting how often a specific Dynamic Mutator will appear when you get a Dynamic Mutator Call
(7:56:34 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: Oh, so it's just a lame killstreak system?
(7:56:34 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, so if you really like things like Instagib, you spend your points in increasing the chances of you seeing it when you get a call
(7:56:41 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: I love instagib!!!
(7:56:48 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, it's more like Mario Kart
(7:56:59 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: LOL Mario Kart is the most no-skill game ever
(7:57:06 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: Why can't we just have 1 mutation per match?
(7:57:16 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, you will be able to create custom matches with options like that
(7:57:18 PM) Sam: Dynamic mutations is annoying
(7:57:30 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: So we'll have our instagib servers?
(7:57:38 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, yes
(7:57:42 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: Awesome!
(7:57:49 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: What about freezetag?
(7:58:05 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, there's no freezetag, but thats not to say it won't come in a mutator pack
(7:58:08 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: Will there be a server browser filter for "no mutations"?
(7:58:57 PM) Chef_Linguini: Kedhrin the biggest problem I have with this game that hasn't been promsised to be fixed is the ranking system. It really irks me to win and go 44 an 1 and lose a rank. When the patch is released and I'm playing with simililarly skilled players I'll stop bitching cause w/e works, works, but right now it's just mind boggiling
(7:59:26 PM) Sam: Chef_Linguini: What are the current game modes?
(7:59:36 PM) Chef_Linguini: TDM and CTF
(7:59:41 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: Do you use ELO for ranked matchmaking?
(7:59:52 PM) Sam: Chef_Linguini: That's all?
(7:59:59 PM) Kedhrin: Chef_Linguini, the biggest issue is points not always saving
(8:00:04 PM) Kedhrin: Chef_Linguini, so it's hurting everyone right now
(8:00:07 PM) Sam: Chef_Linguini: No FFA?
(8:00:14 PM) Chef_Linguini: no FA
(8:00:18 PM) Chef_Linguini: FFA*
(8:00:21 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: OH NO, NOT OUR POINTS!!!
(8:00:27 PM) Sam: Chef_Linguini: WTF no FFA?!??!?
(8:00:34 PM) Sam: An Arena FPS which wasn't released with FFA?
(8:00:37 PM) Sam: That's just fucked up
(8:00:38 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, you'll find players care about their points in Nexuiz a great deal
(8:00:41 PM) Chef_Linguini: yeah. it's kinda lame
(8:00:43 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: Haha sure
(8:00:51 PM) Chef_Linguini: I love my points Sam.
(8:01:00 PM) Chef_Linguini: It's quite ridiculous
(8:01:08 PM) Sam: Chef_Linguini: These guyz had better not charge for FFA
(8:01:16 PM) Sam: That's a core feature of an Arena FPS FFS
(8:01:23 PM) Chef_Linguini: I hate them for making them kinda useful lol
(8:01:34 PM) Chef_Linguini: jk about "hate" btw
(8:01:37 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: Why is there no FFA?
(8:02:23 PM) Chef_Linguini: Kedhrin: So with points always saving we should see more sensible rank changes?
(8:02:34 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: Are there any updated PC screenshots yet?
(8:02:48 PM) Chef_Linguini: Or at least rank changes sensible to the algorithm creator?
(8:03:06 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, it was a decision made early on to make the game be team based so Dynamic Mutators can be centered around team play
(8:03:08 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: Is the Nexuiz soundtrack available yet?
(8:03:38 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: So I guess you'll be charging for FFA in DLC then. Why not just charge for KB&M support whilst you're at it? *rage face*
(8:03:57 PM) Kedhrin: Chef_Linguini, hopefully, i won't sit here and deny that the algorithm for determining rank could be completely wrong. However, before we make that call we need the data coming in from players to be consistent to what is actually going on.
(8:03:59 PM) Sam: Jesus Christ, I hate the way the video gaming industry is going
(8:04:18 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, i never said i was charging for Deathmatch, but thank you for the jump to conclusion
(8:04:22 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: Isn't a simple win:loss ratio sufficient?
(8:04:34 PM) Chef_Linguini: I agree with you sam. for once haha
(8:04:44 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, no, ranking doesn't work that way because you have to take into account someone having a bad day vs. their career average
(8:04:46 PM) Chef_Linguini: W/L is awesome! I made a huge thread about it
(8:05:06 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: Assault is one of my favourite game modes from UT2004, will you be adding a similar mode in DLC?
(8:05:14 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, you also have to account for other variables, someone can easily always get on the winnning team and have their rank skyrocket
(8:05:46 PM) Kedhrin: Chef_Linguini, if you just use W/L you open the door for all sorts of exploits, its a pretty bad system
(8:05:49 PM) Chef_Linguini: that's why W's and L's give you or take away a certain amunt of points. It's like H2. Would you be intereasted if I gave you a link to an article explaing it Kedhrin?
(8:05:54 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: Makes sense
(8:05:56 PM) Kedhrin: Chef_Linguini, we're trying to match players based on their skill, not anything else
(8:06:18 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: Skill-based matchmaking will be on PC too, right? xx
(8:06:33 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, yes, but that won't be using custom matches
(8:06:40 PM) Chef_Linguini: Winning is the best determinite of skill. That's the point of the game is it not? The only exlpoit that can be made is "boosting" unless i'm missing something
(8:06:55 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: Nexuiz sounds a lot like the Arena FPS equivalent of CS:GO
(8:07:15 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: I'm looking forward to CS:GO because it's another high-skill game which is now being given skill-based matchmaking
(8:07:17 PM) Sam: Also, Dota 2
(8:07:22 PM) Sam: Skill-based matchmaking is awesome
(8:07:32 PM) Sam: Because without it, games are often so one-sided
(8:07:47 PM) Sam: A stomp is never fun
(8:07:55 PM) Chef_Linguini: no stomps do suck
(8:08:09 PM) Sam: Although I predict everyone will be so much suckier than me, that every match I play I will stomp.
(8:08:14 PM) Chef_Linguini: as long as it works I'm happy with it.
(8:08:18 PM) Kedhrin: i just want this 360 patch to hit i played today and had 2 people quit the match
(8:08:23 PM) Kedhrin: they didn't even rage quit, it was that stupid trial bug
(8:08:29 PM) Kedhrin: that happens pretty much every match
(8:08:37 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: Will there be cross-platform play?
(8:08:44 PM) Kedhrin: Sam, no
(8:08:53 PM) Sam: Kedhrin: Will Nexuiz 2 have cross-platform play?
(8:09:13 PM) Chef_Linguini: Yeah I can't wait for the patch either Kedhrin. MM can be QUITE aggrevating at times. Also, 3v3 is probably much less fun than 4v4 I'm guessing.
Sam: Kedhrin: Will cross-platform play be added as DLC?
Sam: Why 3v3 and 4v4 but not 5v5?
Sam: 5v5 is the size of CS and Dota matchesx
Tiggs: Sam did you overload on coffee today?
Sam: Tiggs: No, why?
Tiggs: Just wondering =)
Sam: Tiggs: I'm just really excited about Nexuiz, and since I don't have a beta key, I have lots of questions to ask.
Kedhrin: Sam, cross-platform is something extremely tricky to do, we don't have any plans at the moment
Sam: Tiggs: It sucks that I won't have my gaming PC between the 2nd and 22nd of April :'(
Kedhrin: Sam, the maps and dynamic mutators were designed around 4v4 play. Anymore players and it'd be complete chaos
Sam: Kedhrin: I guess I won't be playing with my friends then
Kedhrin: Chef_Linguini, the game is WAY more fun with 4v4
Sam: Kedhrin: 1v1 maps?
Sam: Kedhrin: We need 1v1 maps OMG!!!
Sam: Oh wait, we can just make our own
Chef_Linguini: Kedhrin: I can imagine. I also predict the armor and weapons will spawn as intended (there's no such thing as scaricity right now)
Sam: Tiggs: Is the soundtrack available yet? What about the announcer sound files?
Sam: Kedhrin: Who voiced the announcer?
Chef_Linguini: The soundtrack isn't anything extraordinary> Kedddrin voiced the forsellians i do beleive
Sam: Link to announcer lines please
Sam: Chef_Linguini: I heard good things about the OST
Kedhrin: I like the soundtrack especially the longer song versions. we are working on the soundtrack still, theres some licensing hoops we have to take care of.
Sam: Kedhrin: Can you list the songs? I'll just download them from a torrent site
Chef_Linguini: The soundtrack is nice don't get me wrong, but it puts me in "tryhard mode" and I start doing bad because of it
Sam: Kedhrin: Please may you link my the soundfiles for the announcer? I'd love to hear it
Sam: Chef_Linguini: Then disable it and play your own music?
Chef_Linguini: That's what I do
Chef_Linguini: I'm just saying haha
Sam: I'll probably end up disabling it after a few hours just because it'll get repetitive, I do this with every game
Kedhrin: Sam, they aren't avaliable like that, most of the songs we made custom
Sam: Kedhrin: Are you a fan of the UT2004 soundtrack?
Kedhrin: it looks like some people have been bootlegging the soundtrack tho
Kedhrin: Youtube watch?v=kUbz3geERMc&feature=related
Kedhrin: this is one of the menu songs, released by the artists that made it
Kedhrin: Youtube watch?v=nXAQhIUIbGI&feature=related
Kedhrin: Sam, yes i am
Sam: Kedhrin: The music in Nexuiz is lovely
Sam: Kedhrin: I'm concerned that nobody I've talked to has heard of Nexuiz, I have a feeling it's not going to sell well just because hardly anyone has heard of it.
Sam: As great as the game may be, it will suck if I have nobody to play with.
Tiggs: That won't be a problem Sam
Chef_Linguini: Sam: Word of mouth is big. The game will catch on I
Chef_Linguini: I'm sure of it
Tiggs: Steam gets very good traffic
Sam: Tiggs Chef_Linguini: I hope you're right
fnLeX: Yea steam will help nexuiz out bigtime
Sam: I like Steam
Sam: BTW guyz, Portal 2 is 50% off today
Chef_Linguini: Kedhrin, are you there? I have another question
Kedhrin: Chef_Linguini, hi
Chef_Linguini: ok so
emkayu: he wants to know if he can name his babies kedhrin
Chef_Linguini: Why does the electo and most other weapons shoot faster when holding down the trigger instead of timing your shots? Was this on purpose?
Kedhrin: Chef_Linguini, good question, one i don't have an answer for tho i'll ask the guy who hanldes weapons.
Chef_Linguini: ok thank you. If i had a choice i'd like for the ROF to be the same. With the electro I feel like I can either shoot fast and have bad aim or shoot slower and have good aim. maybe this was on purpose and i just need to adapt but most games aren't like this
Kedhrin: yeah its probably a bug in the refire rate system cryengine 3 has
Chef_Linguini: ok. shotgun does this too. I've seen it's been brought to your attention that some weapons don't shoot at all sometimes.
Chef_Linguini: a very aggrevating bug
Kedhrin: yeah thats fixed
Chef_Linguini: fixed in first patch?
Kedhrin: i believe so, yeah
Chef_Linguini: good to hear
(8:56:57 PM) Kedhrin: Spawning without a weapon, only a reticle
(8:57:01 PM) Kedhrin: thats prob what your'e talking about right?
Kedhrin: or you could be having an issue with server predictionn, which has been greatly tweaked
Chef_Linguini: Oh no I meant something else
Chef_Linguini: It's when you hit the alt fire, hit primary, and the weapon doesn't shoot
Kedhrin: yeah its probably related to the same thing
SilentKO: hello there ppl
Chef_Linguini: oh ok
Kedhrin: probably forcing a refire delay when it shouldnt
Chef_Linguini: hey KO
Kedhrin: hi SilentKO
SilentKO: i see you guys talking about the weapons not firing when you want them too
Chef_Linguini: KO: The crylink alt fire will be a beam weapon in TU2!
SilentKO: that sounds nice and interesting
Kedhrin: yeah it'll be like the super clancutter, just not as powerful
Kedhrin: the supercrylink telefrags, so its not really a beam weapon
Chef_Linguini: awesome sauce
Kedhrin: its just bugged most of the time in the version thats out right now
SilentKO: yea that seens like a better choice then what it is now
SilentKO: makes a lil more sense
Chef_Linguini: for sure
Chef_Linguini: what;s up Yoseph!
SilentKO: am sure you guys will get it right Kedhrin
Yoseph: sup bitches
SilentKO: sup Yoseph, not your bitch btw lol
Kedhrin: we got a lot of stuff in the works, so just trying to get them through
Chef_Linguini: Oh here we go again. The mute mutator mutes forever
Kedhrin: lol someones trolling
Chef_Linguini: I have to restart my xbox for my sound to turn on again. joy
Kedhrin: what do you mean
SilentKO: yea that happen to me once too
Kedhrin: mute didn't turn the audio back on???
SilentKO: sometimes it doesnt
Kedhrin: when it ended
Kedhrin: hahaha wow
Chef_Linguini: i can't hear shittt@
SilentKO: and you have to restart
Yoseph: Nope, happend to me yesterday too ked
Chef_Linguini: no menu sounds nothing
Chef_Linguini: Yes i did made a thread about it
Kedhrin: ok cool
Chef_Linguini: 3 times in a row now i've had it
Kedhrin: i'm sure Tonez got on it
Kedhrin: let's hope it got fixed in the TU, that really is a WTF mutator then...
Sam: Tiggs, Kedhrin: You know, there are games on Steam nobody plays, right?
Yoseph: you playin right now Chef?
Chef_Linguini: lol yeah it really is.
Sam: Dogfighter, for one.
Chef_Linguini: yes i'm on right now, although imabout to restart my damn xbox lmao
Yoseph: well I'll turn mine on
SilentKO: you dont have to restart the xbox
SilentKO: just the game Chef_Linguini
Chef_Linguini: well I restarted it
SilentKO: yea i notice that i got online
Chef_Linguini: if technology doesn't work for me i restart it
Chef_Linguini: works pretty damn well
Tiggs: Sam be optimistic
SilentKO: yo Kedhrin quick question if you can answer
Kedhrin: whats up?
SilentKO: how long will you say it will take you guys to release another update/patch? 2 3 months maybe?
Chef_Linguini: he can't say
SilentKO: i know you guys couldnt fix everything you wanted in the first one
Chef_Linguini: I'm guessing mid may but i have no idear
SilentKO: well i guess it will take around 3 months
SilentKO: just a while guess
Yoseph: so the crylink's gonna be a lazer gun eh?
Yoseph: that's pretty sick, not gonna lie
SilentKO: Chef_Linguini same party with you
Kedhrin: SilentKO, we're working as fast as possible, but i can't say anything yet sorry guys
SilentKO: btw Yoseph i got ur msg
SilentKO: its all good Kedhrin i understand
Sam: Kedhrin: OMG don't tell me you're adding in MORE guns?
Sam: There are already too many
Chef_Linguini: He's changing crylink alt fire dude
Sam: WTF is a Crylink?
Echon: I thought you liked UT2k4?
Sam: Echon: I like that game
Echon: also its not a new gun, fire mode change
Echon: well I just find it odd that you like ut2k4 but hate too many weapons... ut2k4 has like double the amount nexuiz does
Sam: Echon: UT2004 had too many
Echon: yeah agreed
Sam: 5 is a good number
Sam: Quake Live has the best weapon balance
Kedhrin: 5 weapons?
SilentKO: love ut2004
Yoseph: I hate weak starting weapons, Nexuiz shotty is a huge step in the right direction for arena shooter starters
Sam: UT2004 had 2 sniper weapons which were pretty much identical
Sam: Yoseph: I'm not so sure, it disencourages learning where the weapons are in the map
Sam: It makes a weak player stronger and a strong player weaker
Chef_Linguini: I've killed a whale and had host quit approximently 5 times. Kedhrin will you send me 250,000 points please?
Sam: WTF is a whale?
Fula: it barks
Chef_Linguini: Please Kedhrin
Kedhrin: lol sorry
Chef_Linguini: Yoseph what did you want to say about the clancutter
Yoseph: That the clancutter's spread needs to be reduced to about 0
Chef_Linguini: It's ok. I'm futher muckin moby dick
Kedhrin: on the alt fire
Yoseph: no, the standard
Yoseph: it doesn't shoot straight at all
Chef_Linguini: We're playing a 4v2. lolz
Yoseph: you can only really use it up close
Yoseph: Alt fire is fine I believe
Yoseph: powerful, risky, cqc, I like it
(SilentKO: didnt even realize it became a 4v2 chef lol
Kedhrin: oh i guess it does have spread
Kedhrin: didnt know it did
Yoseph: I didn't realize it at first either(of course I didn't make the game ; ) it would be a really great weapon without spread
Sam: Yoseph: Want to play with me when the game is released? xx
SilentKO: btw Kedhrin does it matter if you get the game on steam or the THQ store? and what i mean by that is will i still see all the servers everybody else does that got the steam version?
Kedhrin: SilentKO, no, you'll always have to use Steam to play Nexuiz, so use what you prefer
Tre`: Yo Kedhrin, I saw that "Stupid" mode is more for benchmarking, is there going to be a premade demo/scene to run for benchmarking with a score or min/avg/max framerates?
Kedhrin: Tre`, we don't really have plans to get that advanced with it, but who knows we'll see what we can do
Kedhrin: Tre`, STUPID mode is really just on the artists, so if we get engineering support to beef it up we may be able to get some more out of it
Tre`: I see
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