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what's your username in Xonotic?

WTF? Illfonic doesn't own Xonotic... You been playing Xonotic lately, .RB.?

@mouse, I'm not sure what charge-up you're referring to.  There is currently no charge up for the melee.  Perhaps a slight delay, but not  something I would call a charge up.

Perhaps I'm used to weaker starting weapons, but I always found the shotgun primary fire to be pretty useful in 1v1.  That's probably not the case in DM, TDM, or CTF though.  Although, with some practice, the laser/shotgun combo can effective.  

The shotgun is definitely nothing special, imo.  I don't really mind it being replaced.

An even lesser starting weapon than the Xonotic shotgun? Yeesh. They nerfed it so hard form Nexuiz, and even then, it wasn't a very compelling weapon.

The shotgun is just a starting weapon. It's not supposed to be anything amazing. Although, it does have a great use as a finisher, being hit scan and all. The last thing you want to hear when your near death is the shotgun because there's no getting away from it. The current alt fire on the shotgun is a melee, which is not only ridiculous to add to a shotgun(which is already a powerful close range weapon), but also kinda OP doing 80 damage with no charge up or anything. Also, compared to the other weapons, the shotgun is extremely unimaginative and something I never felt fit the game.

As far as the new laser goes, there's talk about somehow implementing the shotguns attack PLUS a melee attack into it, while still keeping the laser functionality for jumping and juggling. I think everyone is pretty skeptical of that idea, so we'll see if it's ever even realized. it would be far more realistic to combine the laser and shotgun primary fire, and then make a new melee weapon all together. Whatever the case, this is definitely the time for the devs to experiment with stuff like this.

I can't really look at the game with 'fresh eyes' the way someone like yourself can. I find Xonotic too much like Nexuiz to be considered a truly new addition to the genre, but too different to the old Nexuiz to really have the depth needed for broad appeal.

Ah I see now. I think this is a common thing amongst Nexuiz players who have tried Xonotic. Perhaps some of the proposed changes, like adding the LG and removing the shotgun and making a laser starting weapon, will prove to be both enhancements to the game, and game changers that will allow for Nexuiz players to see a different game. Or maybe they will break it lol (I hope not).

Anyway, I hope more Aussies start playing. I know a few that are always stuck in NA or EU servers for the same reason. Xonotic netcode is good enough to play at their pings, but not reliably with anything but hitscan weapons.

Also, I think ghostflux is right about the RG. Even with the nerf, the RG is pretty powerful. It does 80 dmg instantly, at any range.